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you're locked into inception radio

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network superior Wisconsin aliens to

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ghosts demons to a dream from shadow

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people through the outer edge heidi

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welcome welcome everybody to my awesome

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friday evening you're listening to me

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heidi hollis the Outlander so welcome to

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the show everybody get comfortable gosh

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I I so like missed having these Friday

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nights it's kind of nice to look forward

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to chatting with my buds and everybody

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here so i have to tell you guys why you

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are tuning in to me so i want to tell

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you what this show is about this shows

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about bringing outlandish topics to the

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forefront I don't care demons go so

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encounter shadow people the Bigfoot to

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the outlandish all I say if it's weird

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we're here and so are you so everybody

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you're among friends I'm gonna cut up

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I'm got a got a mute over there mute

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mute I'm hearing futzing going on all

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right um I'm gonna tell you a little bit

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about myself if you do not know who I am

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when it comes to the outlandish from

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visions of Jesus and naming shadow

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people I'm someone who has been there

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seen that experience it freaked out

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found some answers wrote about it got

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over it and now I hope to help others do

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the same thing and understand this crazy

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crazy world of ours I think I hear my

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guest breathing everybody's not me

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breathing just so you know um and I want

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to hook you guys to go and check out my

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main website which is heidi hollis calm

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it's hei dih oll is calm and i want to

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tell you guys how you hear this program

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because this network is set up to the

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teeth that's awesome they have their own

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app irn app inception at Radio Network

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app please get it downloaded and then

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you could hear me at all times how about

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that mm-hmm and also equal isset is

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program very much the same way that my

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parents do which is just calling a

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simple number 401 283 6700 and I always

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welcome people to call in to the show

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because i like talking to people people

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are mostly decent mmm now hold on yeah

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they're okay coming to the show what 88

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89 1923 55 or skype your comments and

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questions

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to us because I take those two and i'm

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going to go in a chat room here very

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soon but i have a little technical

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difficulty but i got myself wired i

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think so so i will be in the chat room

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you guys got to come join me over there

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and i will put a post very soon on my

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facebook and let people know i am here

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chatting it up so you guys it's raining

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and storming like crazy here in chicago

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i think everybody is like having

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flooding issues all over the place and

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terrible tornadoes and it's like the

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world is just caving in on itself

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where's Noah when you need him I mean I

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don't know he will put in a call at the

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end of the show so um that might also

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mean that Joe was flooding because Joe

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another producer likes to flood he

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floods his home all the freaking time

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and MJ who is up and Wisconsin I think

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he's fine he's producing tonight we're

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having fun just chillin hanging out but

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I need a snack I got some coffee i got a

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drink of water or I think I'm good um I

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want to tell you guys also probably my

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most favorite part of the show is the

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first 30 minutes is where I do the

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outlandish corner that's my special

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effects whoo okay outlandish corner what

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is that that's where I dig into my

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emails and omj saying it's all good up

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north and sunny 70 well lucky you cuz

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it's storming like crazy over here at

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day um but I'd like to dig into the

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emails for the peeps that listen to this

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show and are stuck it to some horrible

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situations when it comes to dark things

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I seem to get a lot of dark things sent

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my way which is okay that's all right

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queen of darkness here not but um I also

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appreciate a good Jesus story angels

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anybody just just feel free right me you

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could always contact me through my email

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das das Diaz and David dust Outlander @

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gmail.com or go to my facebook page put

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a number one and for the heidi hollis of

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one honey house okay or you can follow

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me on twitter at 180 house as well so

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there you go Booya so we're going to get

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on over

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into the outlandish corner because this

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is so cool and every once in a while I

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like to invite my guests to join me and

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I always leave the option open and and

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lo and behold my guest for the evening

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who is awesome possum is going to join

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me we got Brad Olsen waiting in the

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wings hello Brad how are you hey Heidi I

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was holding my breath so I wouldn't

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breathe too hard yeah then we got intro

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taken care of I guess my breath out

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there yea though it's all good ya know I

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always tell people mute mute so you

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don't it's like a fuss all you want I

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just uh I never know what what nose is

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I'm hearing through my headset and I'm

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like what is that but it's all good but

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I will officially like do your read your

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bio and all that good stuff after hour

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30 minutes of digging into the grab bag

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of email so Brad is gonna join me and

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we're gonna both put our heads together

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and we're going to figure out some of

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these emails all right Brad is that cool

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got it okay let me let me let me go down

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here I've got some big juicy ones Brad

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I'm trying to find a shorter one oh gosh

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okay all right and I don't generally

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read these in advance sometimes I do

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other times most times I don't so it's

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not edited there swear words and stuff I

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try to skip him um okay sister Heidi it

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was back in 2009 is that my mom's

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apartment she was in the process of

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moving and one night I was sleeping on a

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mattress on the floor and my sister's

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room it was me and my three-year-old son

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and the room was dark and I woke up

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looked up saw something start looking

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down at me that's just chillin all I saw

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was big oh no oh it's always big alien

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looking eyes with green in them Nick I

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can see like it was a face but with eyes

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yucky um I went under the cover and when

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I looked again it's like I saw the

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shadow face coming closer to me but

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slowly and I went back under the covers

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and kicked the computer that was on the

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floor beside me and the light came on

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the screen I looked and it was gone

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I grabbed my son and left the room and

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woke my mom up to this day I could still

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picture it but it seems like ever since

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then bad things and bad luck has been

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happening why do you think this is Thank

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You Jessica hmm okay um well I'll hold

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on yeah okay so well that's a doozy are

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you know it's nice to get some good

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alien stories every once in a while but

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it's like a shadowy face coming closer

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you know I I don't know exactly why

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sometimes bad luck seems to follow

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people who have encountered some of

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these peculiar oddballs one being mmm

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aliens are not cool I mean most of them

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are and if something scared you I mean I

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just think that people's gut instinct

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tells them a whole heck of a lot like

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you see something you feel something and

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you just know it's not good you don't

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get that fuzzy warm feeling in your

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belly and makes you grab your

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three-year-old and jet it out of the

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room I would say it's not good so why it

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was checking you out peeking I I really

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couldn't tell you but the bad luck thing

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I mean it makes me wonder are you having

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other encounters is there something else

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that's going on it you're just not quite

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fully aware are you thinking perhaps

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their dreams but they just seem to stick

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with you for a bit I mean it's something

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interfering going on more interference

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going on that you're you're not telling

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and you're not linking up that's that's

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what I tend to think of when I hear of

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such a thing it's like I've got bad luck

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ever since I saw this one thing does one

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situation happen but there may be other

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situations that i have really you're

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just not not connecting the dots I don't

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know what do you think Brad oh I'd be

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interested in know if this is a one and

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done if it was only one time I am her if

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this has happened multiple times if it

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was just one time it's a little bit of

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harder to connect the dots and and say

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it was an abduction experience because

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usually it does happen multiple times

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but not to downplay this person's

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experience I think they're all valid in

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their own way but yeah just to play

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devil's advocate you might want to say

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sure you weren't having a nightmare or

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something I don't want to

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put any suggestions into this person's

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head it obviously sounds like it may

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have been traumatic but we gotta look at

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it from all angles and unless it's a

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multiple abduction experience maybe

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there's a simpler explanation yeah yeah

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no I hear you I her even playing devil's

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advocate is often required but it's it's

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just so this really kind of kind of

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bizarre that's like I I'm on the same

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page as you it's like I think that

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something else may be going on and

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they're not quite connecting the dots to

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being further experiences if it truly is

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ealing related because it to have an

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isolated case to have gotten that close

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its kind of kind of rare I think you

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know maybe maybe the Sun had some

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insight if he saw it or if he was in the

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room as well that could kinda correspond

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to what she's saying yeah yeah so

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alrighty um let's see look that I think

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that um you know it's a weird it's like

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I've got these emails all backed up on

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one page here that could either bend

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from Jessica or Roger so like God help

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me Lord only knows which one that was

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but all right sure um oh Lord I just put

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copy paste them into a page and just

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roll with it so Roger Jessica I hope

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that that was helpful I I don't know why

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the bad liquid continue unless there's

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something else that's been going on

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that's that's that's mine and Brad's

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consensus here all right so we're gonna

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go to oh look this one's from Roger

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never mind that was Jessica um that's

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this is good morning Heidi this is a big

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one Brad so grab some popcorn um good

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morning Heidi my name is Roger and I'm

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listening to you on a replay of another

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radio show I won't mention here right

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now um and I decided to take the time to

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tell you my story I'm the youngest of

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seven children we grew up in a house

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that was haunted sounds like my life it

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was built in western Maine and 1820 and

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was in our family for generations as a

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child I saw several different

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apparitions in the house and suffered

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bouts of sleepwalking and did most of my

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brothers and sisters the most terrifying

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account happened to me when I was about

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16 years old and pertains to dance

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editor shadow people I came home from

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school that day not feeling very well so

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I ate an early dinner and decided to go

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to bed it was just getting desk outside

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as I went upstairs and lay down as I lay

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there my ears began ringing and I tried

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to sit up and found that I couldn't my

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body was frozen in place and all I could

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move were my eyes I began to get frantic

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as I struggled to move the ringing got

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louder and then I noticed the shadow in

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the corners of the room started to move

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that gives me the chills I was trying to

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scream but couldn't the shadows slipped

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across the ceiling and took on half

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human shapes from the waist up there

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were quite a few of them and they

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started to swirl in circles above my

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head through the ringing in my ears I

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started to hear this cacophony of

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laughter okay I don't know that word and

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the shells were pointing at me oh well

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that's just rude it got louder and the

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ringing faded then suddenly the ringing

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and laughter stopped oh and a child's

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voice said very clearly help me oh no oh

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no Brad this is really horrible a

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child's voice said very clearly help me

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I'm buried in the cellar hmm oh boy ya

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think I know where this one's going but

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go on oh my gosh this is horrific I was

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crying by this time and the only thing I

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could think to do was whisper Jesus help

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me when I did the shadows were sucked

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back into the corners of the room and I

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slowly was able to move again generally

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one of us kids had a weird experience we

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shared with the others but I was so

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shaken by this I didn't mention it for

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years until my brother and I were both

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home on military leave I told the whole

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story to him and my parents then

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suggested Oh like a bad movie

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my name check the cellar yes my parents

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and suggested we go dig up the cellar

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where my dad had once told me my

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grandfather had dug a well well this is

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where it got him even more weird really

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okay my dad freaked out and started

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yelling saying there was never a well in

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the basement and no one was digging up

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anything okay dad sure he started

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yelling saying there was never a well in

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the basement no one was digging up

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anything my mother also looked really

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scared and said basically the same thing

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uh-huh I backed off and told them I was

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just joking after they went to bed my

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brother told me he remembered the well

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in the basement and that my dad had

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filled it in moving ahead while I was in

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the Navy I had a couple of dream

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experiences the first came when a friend

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of mine on a ship had lent me his copy

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of a book called the necromancy oh great

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okay which he claimed was one of the

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original printed copies it was a big

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leather bound book probably made a pig

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skin or something with gold leaf pages I

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started reading it and found it

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fascinating to the point that i thought

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i read about three-quarters of it until

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I fell asleep I immediately went into

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this series of dreams first of all I saw

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this long list of words in another

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language as I was trying to figure it

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out they started to fade off and I found

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myself standing wrapped in a navy

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blanket staring down at myself it

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shifted again and I was lying in bed

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with my parents in my parents house the

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same one is above the room I was in was

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adjacent to my parents bedroom my room

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was dark and the light was on in their

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room the door was halfway open so the

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light was shining on my face okay cut

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across my chest I felt something grab my

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hand and the darkness I looked down and

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saw I saw a black hand holding me look

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holding my hand I had this strange urge

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what I had the strange or her urge to

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kiss the hand and I drew it up to my

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face but when it entered the light it

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disappeared although I could still feel

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it the dream shifted one more time and I

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was in my workspace on the ship I was a

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sailor and the power went out as the

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emergency light he came on my co-workers

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and I gathered in the control room we

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were talking among ourselves when a

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voice came over the intercom saying

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Roger I click the button said who is

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this thinking it was one of my friends

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messing with me the voice said Gabriel I

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said yeah right really who is this he

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came back with its Gabriel it's time to

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fight the good fight hold on I need a

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swig of water all right I'm still

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getting over a cold I started to laugh

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as i looked around the room and noticed

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this one guy named while he was staring

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into the intercom and he was absolutely

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pale and looked scared I'd asked him

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what was wrong he said there's no power

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to that bus I woke up in a panic cold

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sweat I sought out my friend and gave

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him the book back I have many more

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stories that are different and weird but

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this is probably enough for now the only

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question i would have for you is have

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you heard of this sort of lifelong

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experiences of being haunted like being

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hereditary i suspect my dad may have

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been haunted and after he died it came

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after me another long story for another

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time and after i was able to drive it

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off i suspect it's doing the same thing

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with my nephew who as a young man is

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plagued with sleep paralysis and

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visitations he has had a hard time

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dealing with at any rate I hope you

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enjoyed the stories I guess should share

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more with you if you like I enjoyed your

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interview on the other show hope to hear

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more from you again sincerely Roger will

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Roger Dodger but wow that how creepy is

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that I mean it's funny how when people

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get buried in a house they do tend to

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tell on themselves like dude I'm in the

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cellar could somebody dig me up please

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and then dad acts all freaked out like

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his long-lost brother was thrown in

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there or something and good lord that's

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um that's quite a story so I really

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wouldn't be surprised if there was

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something in the basement but what's

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really strange to me is about the

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shadowy forms that that took control at

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first you know that formed into the

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half well I call him head and shoulder

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shadows go to my website heidi hollis

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calm you'll see what I'm talking about

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because those guys are liars shadow

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people are liars and they can make up so

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much stuff and they can make themselves

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appear as other things and sound as

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other things though shadow people

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generally aren't very chatty but i

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always have linked from day one shadow

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people to alien beings and what's

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interesting is this story started off

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with the ringing in the ears that it's

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very much like the alien encounters that

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you will hear a lot of people you're

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ringing in the ears and lo and behold

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something shows up and whoop here we go

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ringing in the ears and shadowy people

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show up and then you're like what's best

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for this situation I think we'll have

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laughter of a and and then we'll have a

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child's voice scream and buried in the

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cellar there could be something buried

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in the cellar but these shadow things

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may also be trying to have you dig up I

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don't know the pits of hell I don't know

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they like that kind of thing um but

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interesting about the book that charged

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you with these odd dream experiences

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which is not shocking when you mess with

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that kind of stuff deep dark freaky odd

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things but um then you had this Gabriel

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come to you through the intercom which

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is bizarre but you know having waking

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dreams people that have had odd

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experiences it's not surprising to me

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that people have that in general so was

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it because of this book I don't know but

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you may just be somebody that like you

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said there's something that's in the

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family that has you all be linked to odd

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thanks so and it's running in the family

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with your nephew so that does happen I

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don't know call it a curse or a gift our

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family DNA being passed on but yes

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indeed it could be it could be so Brad

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what's your take on that one that sounds

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like dad has some deep dark secrets and

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I never hear of Wells being created in

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basements always in the back yard or

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another place and so if roger has the

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ability to go back to the house and the

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basement since his brother also

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remembers father saying that I'd put

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this to rest

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and go down there and do a little

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excavating and see what's in there and

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never know there might be a call to the

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police by some grisly discovery but you

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never know there might be nothing there

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at all and that could put it to rest too

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yeah that's up I swear I saw like an

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episode of a haunting that TV series i

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love that one there being a well in the

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basement i guess that's provided easier

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access but it's also a good way to toss

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the body and get rid of it no no no huh

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you know I I grew up in Chicago as well

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and I was there during the time of John

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Wayne Gacy and all the corpses in his

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basement so uh yeah that's weird my dad

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actually owned a pharmacy in park ridge

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and remembers the guy he used to come in

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and cashes checks what yeah yeah Owen

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Gacy and then in a roundabout way I had

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a friend in my neighborhood who knew a

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kid that went missing like a runaway and

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then he was one of the victims of Gacy

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oh gosh what you want to hear my odd

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family connection to something really

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peculiar sure do I Milwaukee Wisconsin

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Jeffrey Dahmer ah there we go he

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approached one of my brothers yeah he

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might have been I don't know gonna eat

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him I I have no idea but my brother's

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like what is you know get away from me

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dude what's going on with you and it

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could save a stranger because my

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brother-in-law's brother is the one that

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murdered him oh yeah he did he took him

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out and it's a it's sad because there's

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a lot that hasn't been shared on the

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topic of him and what he actually did

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the Dahmer and I I'm like you know I

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told my sister I won't discuss it but

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it's it's really it's a lot sicker than

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people realize let's just put it that

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way but yeah that's chris garver that

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that killed him so yeah there's there's

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some creepy things in connection so you

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got the creepy connection over here in

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Chicago yeah that's pretty wild my

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goodness it's uh you know I

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I think that's pretty morbid I mean I I

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was happy to hear that when it came to

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Dahmer they ripped down the whole

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apartment building where he lived that's

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like that was do overdue I believe

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anyways but um let me see if I got a

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small little email here oh my gosh

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they're all huge they're all huge okay

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all right let me try am I trying to just

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wanna try this one really quick dear

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Heidi my name is Tipton i was listening

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to another radio show and you asked for

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a story that concerns what people are

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going through these days I did ok I have

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only told this to my family at home and

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haven't shared this with anyone I

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haven't known have a shared this with

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anyone that I haven't known not that it

534
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bothers me too it's just I haven't found

535
00:23:45,039 --> 00:23:43,669
anyone who could get it even some of the

536
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:45,049
other guests that were on that radio

537
00:23:49,060 --> 00:23:47,090
show that asked for stories nevertheless

538
00:23:50,919 --> 00:23:49,070
if you're interested I will tell you but

539
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:50,929
first let me say the very thing that

540
00:23:57,669 --> 00:23:53,570
everybody I meet says to me they say man

541
00:23:59,799 --> 00:23:57,679
you're like no one I've ever met yeah it

542
00:24:01,180 --> 00:23:59,809
trips me out sometimes and my family

543
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:01,190
still doesn't know what to think about

544
00:24:07,389 --> 00:24:05,570
me oh goodness hold on this is 0 this is

545
00:24:10,239 --> 00:24:07,399
huge ok we're not gonna have time to

546
00:24:12,909 --> 00:24:10,249
read this it goes on and on holy cannoli

547
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:12,919
Helen let me say I like when people send

548
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:14,570
me big emails it's just sometimes don't

549
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:17,570
fit but and the time that I have allowed

550
00:24:22,389 --> 00:24:20,570
but that's ok um here we go no that's a

551
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:22,399
big one too alright so I don't have one

552
00:24:25,690 --> 00:24:23,450
that I could read now that's going to

553
00:24:28,690 --> 00:24:25,700
fit because this is this a monster story

554
00:24:31,749 --> 00:24:28,700
and I would hate to to goof it and not

555
00:24:34,269 --> 00:24:31,759
give it due diligence because this is

556
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:34,279
really creepy it's really cool so um you

557
00:24:37,749 --> 00:24:35,690
know what i think what i'm gonna do

558
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:37,759
since i got a few minutes before we go

559
00:24:43,659 --> 00:24:41,090
to break I am going to read off your by

560
00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:43,669
a little bit bread and first I want to

561
00:24:47,830 --> 00:24:45,289
bite people anybody that's had any hot

562
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:47,840
experience as it wants me to get a

563
00:24:51,999 --> 00:24:49,970
little bit advice or whatever feel free

564
00:24:54,430 --> 00:24:52,009
to write me at dusk outlander @

565
00:24:55,989 --> 00:24:54,440
gmail.com and find me on facebook as

566
00:24:58,419 --> 00:24:55,999
well put a one in front of my name and

567
00:25:02,529 --> 00:24:58,429
send it on over because I will do my

568
00:25:05,470 --> 00:25:02,539
best to I don't know didn't give a nod a

569
00:25:06,850 --> 00:25:05,480
little laugh at a joke even but honest

570
00:25:10,090 --> 00:25:06,860
advice how about that

571
00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:10,100
so um so people are like scratching your

572
00:25:14,669 --> 00:25:11,600
heads going who the heck is this brad i

573
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:14,679
just got on here so i'm gonna read this

574
00:25:23,350 --> 00:25:18,530
lovely biol that i've got here of Brad's

575
00:25:28,090 --> 00:25:23,360
passion it's how you're you're vile

576
00:25:31,390 --> 00:25:28,100
starts off just so you know boy Brad

577
00:25:33,220 --> 00:25:31,400
Olsen's passion no this this is very

578
00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:33,230
cool I mean my goodness okay so you have

579
00:25:36,669 --> 00:25:34,880
books that have reach a wide audience

580
00:25:38,140 --> 00:25:36,679
across the country and won numerous

581
00:25:40,860 --> 00:25:38,150
awards for your writing which is cool

582
00:25:43,090 --> 00:25:40,870
you've been reviewed in top publications

583
00:25:44,860 --> 00:25:43,100
continues to lecture nationwide on

584
00:25:46,450 --> 00:25:44,870
various subjects he has appeared on

585
00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:46,460
dozens of television and nationally

586
00:25:51,310 --> 00:25:48,049
syndicated radio shows over the course

587
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:51,320
of two decades whoa yet for all the

588
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:53,450
fanfare Brad Olson likes to spend time

589
00:25:56,740 --> 00:25:55,010
with friends family attempting to be

590
00:25:59,289 --> 00:25:56,750
outdoors as much as possible which is

591
00:26:01,270 --> 00:25:59,299
cool although the professional task a

592
00:26:03,190 --> 00:26:01,280
book publishing occupies most of his

593
00:26:06,580 --> 00:26:03,200
year bread Olson is also the founder and

594
00:26:08,260 --> 00:26:06,590
event producer of the how weird street

595
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:08,270
faire in San Francisco that's where i

596
00:26:15,100 --> 00:26:11,570
was born bad the city where he currently

597
00:26:17,230 --> 00:26:15,110
resides awesome between between a

598
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:17,240
writing online and print publication

599
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:20,330
articles new book chapters and posting

600
00:26:25,690 --> 00:26:22,850
on social media he also manages various

601
00:26:28,330 --> 00:26:25,700
websites does marketing work a special

602
00:26:30,700 --> 00:26:28,340
sales fulfillment administrative tasks

603
00:26:34,049 --> 00:26:30,710
manages of various projects my goodness

604
00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:34,059
are you busy you where publishers at

605
00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:37,130
goodness it makes a state of glove only

606
00:26:40,270 --> 00:26:38,809
really seeing only the kinds of books he

607
00:26:41,770 --> 00:26:40,280
would value owning himself which

608
00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:41,780
incorporates thought-provoking and

609
00:26:47,580 --> 00:26:44,480
critical content was a wide appeal to

610
00:26:50,020 --> 00:26:47,590
readers his book publishing business ccc

611
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:50,030
publishing is distributed by independent

612
00:26:54,159 --> 00:26:51,530
publishers Wow round of applause

613
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:54,169
everybody Brad Olson who is going to

614
00:26:59,799 --> 00:26:56,690
actually be really dishing after the

615
00:27:01,270 --> 00:26:59,809
break wow that I'm just speechless so

616
00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:01,280
you guys will be right back you're

617
00:27:04,419 --> 00:27:02,510
listening to me how do you house the

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Outlander on inception radio network and

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you're locked into inception radio

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Heidi Hollis and I wanted to share with

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you guys a little bit about myself in my

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writings because I am a published author

624
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I brought on everything from angels to

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aliens ghosts demons shadow people so I

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don't know you name it I do it and I

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ghosts demons a turkey from shadow

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people through the outlandish putty

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welcome back everybody you listen to me

711
00:32:52,450 --> 00:32:50,360
Heidi house the Outlander remembering

712
00:32:54,130 --> 00:32:52,460
always if it's weird we're here and

713
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we're giving advice and insight Anna

714
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landish topics phone lines are always

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open because we're not afraid of you

716
00:33:06,910 --> 00:33:04,340
over here ok so 1 888 91 92 355 and if

717
00:33:08,890 --> 00:33:06,920
you didn't hear during the first half of

718
00:33:10,510 --> 00:33:08,900
the show I should I was that a half that

719
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:10,520
wasn't a half it was the first 30

720
00:33:15,340 --> 00:33:13,130
minutes I invited Brad Olsen to join me

721
00:33:16,900 --> 00:33:15,350
for the outlandish corner which we had

722
00:33:20,350 --> 00:33:16,910
some fun answering some of your emails

723
00:33:21,790 --> 00:33:20,360
and i also got to introduce him so I'm

724
00:33:24,370 --> 00:33:21,800
gonna let him tell a little bit more

725
00:33:26,410 --> 00:33:24,380
about himself because lo and behold I

726
00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:26,420
mean we have a lot in common even that

727
00:33:30,460 --> 00:33:28,310
he's from Chicago I'm living here now

728
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:30,470
I'm not from here but love freaking

729
00:33:36,190 --> 00:33:34,130
Chicago so Brad Olsen what everybody's

730
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:36,200
just like dying to know more about you

731
00:33:42,910 --> 00:33:39,770
so douchey well don't die but i will

732
00:33:46,420 --> 00:33:42,920
tell ya like you said I grew up in

733
00:33:48,610 --> 00:33:46,430
Chicago and traveled quite extensively

734
00:33:50,260 --> 00:33:48,620
in the Midwest and Boy Scouts and my dad

735
00:33:52,540 --> 00:33:50,270
and grandpa took his on trips and so

736
00:33:53,980 --> 00:33:52,550
forth and kind of got the travel bug so

737
00:33:57,700 --> 00:33:53,990
when i graduated illinois state

738
00:33:59,050 --> 00:33:57,710
university in 1988 had a couple friends

739
00:34:01,330 --> 00:33:59,060
and said oh yeah I want to go to Europe

740
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:01,340
let's let's do it so I started planning

741
00:34:06,670 --> 00:34:04,250
and I started making money painting

742
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:06,680
houses up in the northwest suburbs where

743
00:34:10,630 --> 00:34:09,050
I grew up and then they won by one

744
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:10,640
dropped out couldn't do it for one

745
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:12,050
reason or another and I'm like hey I'm

746
00:34:18,190 --> 00:34:14,570
still going so I went solo to Europe for

747
00:34:21,460 --> 00:34:18,200
three months in 1988 and in the first

748
00:34:24,730 --> 00:34:21,470
week I got my backpack stolen and I was

749
00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:24,740
thinking uh maybe I just call this off I

750
00:34:28,990 --> 00:34:26,720
don't have anything well I did have my

751
00:34:30,730 --> 00:34:29,000
money in my passport and I said screw

752
00:34:32,170 --> 00:34:30,740
that I don't really need much I'm just

753
00:34:34,420 --> 00:34:32,180
gonna go for it and it turned out to be

754
00:34:36,910 --> 00:34:34,430
a wonderful trip and all the while I

755
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:36,920
thought I was doing such great for

756
00:34:41,110 --> 00:34:39,290
myself self financed three months and

757
00:34:43,810 --> 00:34:41,120
Europe and then I'd meet these

758
00:34:46,240 --> 00:34:43,820
Australians and Kiwis maybe three months

759
00:34:49,510 --> 00:34:46,250
we've been on the road for three years

760
00:34:52,180 --> 00:34:49,520
may yeah yeah SS how do you do how'd you

761
00:34:54,220 --> 00:34:52,190
do that well you know we work abroad and

762
00:34:57,220 --> 00:34:54,230
we just keep going in one direction

763
00:35:02,050 --> 00:34:57,230
and eventually takes back to astral yeah

764
00:35:05,020 --> 00:35:02,060
right cool I want to do that and so I

765
00:35:06,730 --> 00:35:05,030
came back to the Midwest and as I was

766
00:35:08,530 --> 00:35:06,740
telling you during the break my mom and

767
00:35:10,270 --> 00:35:08,540
sister were also getting California

768
00:35:12,310 --> 00:35:10,280
fever we'd been out here a few times on

769
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:12,320
vacation and so forth and they said

770
00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:15,170
we're moving we're going and I said well

771
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:16,910
take my stuff I'll beat you there when i

772
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:18,650
get back from Europe and I did and then

773
00:35:24,130 --> 00:35:20,210
I just moved straight up to Lake Tahoe

774
00:35:26,109 --> 00:35:24,140
for to ski seasons because uh snow

775
00:35:28,090 --> 00:35:26,119
skiing is one of my passions the

776
00:35:33,250 --> 00:35:28,100
passions of brad is you write it up my

777
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:33,260
bio yeah I love it the passion gotta

778
00:35:40,690 --> 00:35:38,290
have passion like hard so California

779
00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:40,700
welcomed me with open arms I guess you

780
00:35:46,900 --> 00:35:44,240
could say and lived here in a few places

781
00:35:49,090 --> 00:35:46,910
after Lake Tahoe including santa cruz

782
00:35:52,359 --> 00:35:49,100
and then out to Hawaii with my first

783
00:35:54,099 --> 00:35:52,369
California girlfriend and we broke up

784
00:35:56,170 --> 00:35:54,109
after about a year and a half and then I

785
00:35:58,390 --> 00:35:56,180
kept remembering with those Australians

786
00:36:03,220 --> 00:35:58,400
and kiwi said we've been on the road for

787
00:36:05,230 --> 00:36:03,230
three years mate hey and so I got it the

788
00:36:08,849 --> 00:36:05,240
idea I got tipped off that I could go to

789
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:08,859
Japan and teach English and I did and I

790
00:36:13,930 --> 00:36:11,930
had this idea for my first book if I get

791
00:36:16,270 --> 00:36:13,940
hired and I can make this happen I'm

792
00:36:18,940 --> 00:36:16,280
gonna write a book about it and the week

793
00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:18,950
I got hired I started a journal about

794
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:22,160
how other people could also managed to

795
00:36:27,220 --> 00:36:23,570
create their own trip around the world

796
00:36:29,890 --> 00:36:27,230
and work their way around and so that

797
00:36:32,290 --> 00:36:29,900
first book is called world stompers a

798
00:36:34,180 --> 00:36:32,300
global travel manifesto and it's still

799
00:36:36,849 --> 00:36:34,190
in print and I still get emails from

800
00:36:38,170 --> 00:36:36,859
people who read it and thanked me for

801
00:36:41,950 --> 00:36:38,180
getting them out there on the road and

802
00:36:45,250 --> 00:36:41,960
uh yeah yeah so that that got me started

803
00:36:47,050 --> 00:36:45,260
but of course that was after I did my

804
00:36:50,290 --> 00:36:47,060
three year trip around the world after

805
00:36:53,620 --> 00:36:50,300
teaching English in Japan and it had to

806
00:36:55,060 --> 00:36:53,630
be three years right well you know we

807
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:55,070
got we gotta live up to that milestone

808
00:37:01,510 --> 00:36:56,810
right if they could do it I could do it

809
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:01,520
right right and and of course that that

810
00:37:07,630 --> 00:37:03,770
experience was just so incredibly

811
00:37:10,630 --> 00:37:07,640
eye-opening and as I was traveling I met

812
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:10,640
of americans in goa india towards the

813
00:37:15,310 --> 00:37:13,490
end of the trip and we got along so

814
00:37:17,380 --> 00:37:15,320
great said hey we got to meet up again

815
00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:17,390
someday we get back and none of us had

816
00:37:24,940 --> 00:37:20,710
ever been to San Francisco to live and

817
00:37:27,790 --> 00:37:24,950
as it were a year later we all found

818
00:37:29,710 --> 00:37:27,800
ourselves here wanting to get a place to

819
00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:29,720
live and throw these go at trance

820
00:37:33,820 --> 00:37:31,520
parties and this is kind of the segue

821
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:33,830
into how the how weird street faire

822
00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:36,530
started well we got this warehouse on

823
00:37:42,190 --> 00:37:38,720
Howard Street and it's like a play on

824
00:37:43,870 --> 00:37:42,200
words Howard how weird and we called it

825
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:43,880
the consortium of collective

826
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:45,650
consciousness and that's where I started

827
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:48,970
my book publishing business 20 years ago

828
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:55,370
yeah 1995 Wow time flies and so we were

829
00:37:59,260 --> 00:37:57,650
throwing these great parties and we're

830
00:38:02,200 --> 00:37:59,270
never in it for the money but it was

831
00:38:03,490 --> 00:38:02,210
just really fun to host people and come

832
00:38:05,950 --> 00:38:03,500
over and experience this kind of

833
00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:05,960
electronic dance music but the parties

834
00:38:11,890 --> 00:38:08,720
got really famous and popular and I

835
00:38:12,940 --> 00:38:11,900
don't know where you were um but I was

836
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:12,950
looking through your book the world

837
00:38:18,340 --> 00:38:15,890
stopper is one and I have to ask you

838
00:38:20,830 --> 00:38:18,350
something really quick because I pop it

839
00:38:22,630 --> 00:38:20,840
open and right after your forward you

840
00:38:24,610 --> 00:38:22,640
say a note from mom and there's a

841
00:38:28,210 --> 00:38:24,620
drawing of aliens I mean what is that

842
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:28,220
about that well my mom's been very

843
00:38:35,500 --> 00:38:32,930
supportive of my work and yeah well the

844
00:38:37,210 --> 00:38:35,510
drawing was was sort of the friends I

845
00:38:39,250 --> 00:38:37,220
was with at the time you know it's kind

846
00:38:41,590 --> 00:38:39,260
of the zeitgeist of the ages Heidi I

847
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:41,600
can't really explain it much better than

848
00:38:48,310 --> 00:38:45,770
that it just is what it is gotcha gotcha

849
00:38:50,470 --> 00:38:48,320
oh you know what our friend Mark is in

850
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:50,480
the chat room and he's asked if you've

851
00:38:59,230 --> 00:38:57,460
it's wrote the photos I don't know he's

852
00:39:00,970 --> 00:38:59,240
been an ancient aliens that that little

853
00:39:04,390 --> 00:39:00,980
show that's kind of kid it's an awesome

854
00:39:06,790 --> 00:39:04,400
show huh so I guess it's a serious

855
00:39:08,620 --> 00:39:06,800
question yes he say it's very serious so

856
00:39:11,740 --> 00:39:08,630
he wants to know have you done this no

857
00:39:14,740 --> 00:39:11,750
no I know Giorgio and he was telling me

858
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:14,750
about the show with a good mutual friend

859
00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:17,330
David Hatcher Childress about a year

860
00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:18,880
before it started and i was actually

861
00:39:23,329 --> 00:39:20,640
scouting locations

862
00:39:26,420 --> 00:39:23,339
for them yeah maybe shoot up here in San

863
00:39:29,089 --> 00:39:26,430
Francisco and had a good spot for him

864
00:39:31,579 --> 00:39:29,099
but it wasn't quite ready in time and

865
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:31,589
then well where they shoot now is a

866
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:33,690
great location I've been there I guess

867
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:34,890
I'm not supposed to tell you where they

868
00:39:39,289 --> 00:39:36,960
do it at all right but it sits down in

869
00:39:42,230 --> 00:39:39,299
LA I'll caught it at a big beautiful

870
00:39:44,089 --> 00:39:42,240
house no mark I have not run my hair

871
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:44,099
hands through georgios here I don't

872
00:39:48,740 --> 00:39:46,410
think he'd want me to do that you guys

873
00:39:50,089 --> 00:39:48,750
right here we go really is yeah we've

874
00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:50,099
got great hair i'm looking at you you

875
00:39:55,519 --> 00:39:53,250
look so Californian I mean it's just a

876
00:39:59,599 --> 00:39:55,529
bit ridiculous I don't see an Illinois

877
00:40:01,609 --> 00:39:59,609
kidding you at all nope uh-uh it and you

878
00:40:03,470 --> 00:40:01,619
know what I have to say this because I

879
00:40:05,269 --> 00:40:03,480
mean you're telling about you know you

880
00:40:07,819 --> 00:40:05,279
were all traveling and all this stuff

881
00:40:10,069 --> 00:40:07,829
and parties and stuff and it brad has to

882
00:40:14,210 --> 00:40:10,079
be say is said your your life really

883
00:40:17,029 --> 00:40:14,220
sucks I mean it's really horrible I feel

884
00:40:19,970 --> 00:40:17,039
really sorry for you you got a tongue in

885
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:19,980
your cheek right now I have a great life

886
00:40:25,940 --> 00:40:23,130
I know you do this it's really sickening

887
00:40:28,970 --> 00:40:25,950
bread okay they're all right it's been

888
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:28,980
said dang it all it's like what the hell

889
00:40:34,099 --> 00:40:31,410
that's not fair Brad share a little bit

890
00:40:38,930 --> 00:40:34,109
of the fun or something okay well I do

891
00:40:40,819 --> 00:40:38,940
in my books yes you do she's yeah I saw

892
00:40:43,940 --> 00:40:40,829
that with the aliens and stuff so tell

893
00:40:46,190 --> 00:40:43,950
us more so you got the parties going on

894
00:40:54,170 --> 00:40:46,200
what I mean that has to be a struggle

895
00:40:56,539 --> 00:40:54,180
for you well I love hosting parties and

896
00:40:58,339 --> 00:40:56,549
my my mom was very liberal and she

897
00:41:00,680 --> 00:40:58,349
allowed our neighborhood friends come

898
00:41:02,749 --> 00:41:00,690
over and we'd have keg parties once in a

899
00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:02,759
while or drink beer in high school and

900
00:41:08,210 --> 00:41:05,609
then in college I had a famous party

901
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:08,220
house called the box beta Omega Chi you

902
00:41:13,249 --> 00:41:10,890
know her like the anti frat and a huge

903
00:41:15,769 --> 00:41:13,259
huge parties there one time we had a

904
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:15,779
band playing and we put up chicken wire

905
00:41:19,339 --> 00:41:17,730
like blues brothers so if people would

906
00:41:22,940 --> 00:41:19,349
throw bottles at him it wouldn't hit the

907
00:41:25,490 --> 00:41:22,950
ban you know but that's college that was

908
00:41:27,529 --> 00:41:25,500
I see you so but and even when I lived

909
00:41:29,029 --> 00:41:27,539
in Japan teaching English i lived in

910
00:41:30,710 --> 00:41:29,039
this place called the cherry house and

911
00:41:33,650 --> 00:41:30,720
we'd throw big parties there too so I

912
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:33,660
kind of had this in my blood to to host

913
00:41:36,349 --> 00:41:34,410
parties so that

914
00:41:39,230 --> 00:41:36,359
the CCC came around here in San

915
00:41:41,690 --> 00:41:39,240
Francisco and we had these great parties

916
00:41:44,299 --> 00:41:41,700
and then that morphed into the hot weird

917
00:41:48,020 --> 00:41:44,309
street faire which is out 20,000 people

918
00:41:51,380 --> 00:41:48,030
you know so I guess I got it in my DNA

919
00:41:53,839 --> 00:41:51,390
that I meant to put a smile on the face

920
00:41:55,849 --> 00:41:53,849
people once a year that's all I do just

921
00:41:59,450 --> 00:41:55,859
want have been a year what a nice thing

922
00:42:01,190 --> 00:41:59,460
to do I mean what I mean I think that's

923
00:42:03,470 --> 00:42:01,200
just fantastic I mean anything that

924
00:42:05,450 --> 00:42:03,480
brings in uplifts people's spirits I

925
00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:05,460
think that that's just awesome and the

926
00:42:09,049 --> 00:42:07,440
writing bug once you have it I mean you

927
00:42:10,940 --> 00:42:09,059
just feel like there's other ways that

928
00:42:12,980 --> 00:42:10,950
you could express yourself and hopefully

929
00:42:15,170 --> 00:42:12,990
share bits of information that'll help

930
00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:15,180
others too so I don't think you'll ever

931
00:42:21,049 --> 00:42:18,089
stop writing either so what are some of

932
00:42:23,180 --> 00:42:21,059
your other projects that you've set out

933
00:42:25,130 --> 00:42:23,190
well you know of just a backtrack

934
00:42:27,890 --> 00:42:25,140
shortly I was watching a show on PBS

935
00:42:31,339 --> 00:42:27,900
with the Dalai Lama and this is just a

936
00:42:33,589 --> 00:42:31,349
few years ago and the host said to the

937
00:42:36,109 --> 00:42:33,599
Dalai Lama well what is it that ordinary

938
00:42:39,140 --> 00:42:36,119
people can do to bring about peace and

939
00:42:44,029 --> 00:42:39,150
the Dalai Lama said they can throw a

940
00:42:46,039 --> 00:42:44,039
festival like what that's what I do as

941
00:42:47,660 --> 00:42:46,049
later and then he goes on and talks to

942
00:42:49,490 --> 00:42:47,670
them a little bit more about festival he

943
00:42:52,220 --> 00:42:49,500
said but the Dalai Lama doesn't like to

944
00:42:54,950 --> 00:42:52,230
attend festivals some I just think we

945
00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:54,960
should all do that so yeah so that's

946
00:42:59,180 --> 00:42:57,119
that that's the thing i do for three

947
00:43:01,670 --> 00:42:59,190
months a year takes quite a bit of my

948
00:43:04,460 --> 00:43:01,680
time but you know the day of i have to

949
00:43:07,309 --> 00:43:04,470
work and produce this event but I you

950
00:43:09,849 --> 00:43:07,319
know in service to others I think it's a

951
00:43:11,839 --> 00:43:09,859
good karma to put a smile on the face of

952
00:43:15,230 --> 00:43:11,849
20,000 other people and I do know that

953
00:43:18,019 --> 00:43:15,240
indirectly these unintentional

954
00:43:20,839 --> 00:43:18,029
consequences there have been births of

955
00:43:23,690 --> 00:43:20,849
people who have met at how weird and had

956
00:43:26,450 --> 00:43:23,700
a child and people have on a new career

957
00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:26,460
path they met someone hey that this is

958
00:43:31,460 --> 00:43:29,910
sort of the spontaneous combustion I

959
00:43:34,269 --> 00:43:31,470
suppose that happens when you bring

960
00:43:36,799 --> 00:43:34,279
people together and and then it happens

961
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:36,809
and I actually did a chapter in my book

962
00:43:41,809 --> 00:43:39,210
modern esoteric called so you want to

963
00:43:44,870 --> 00:43:41,819
throw a street fair which is sort of my

964
00:43:47,299 --> 00:43:44,880
extended by 0 people want to know but I

965
00:43:48,380 --> 00:43:47,309
do put some hints in there how to do it

966
00:43:51,470 --> 00:43:48,390
yourself and in this

967
00:43:53,839 --> 00:43:51,480
the Dalai Lama who says that don't to

968
00:43:58,130 --> 00:43:53,849
foster world peace we can do festivals

969
00:44:00,470 --> 00:43:58,140
nice right so now you have a lot of your

970
00:44:04,130 --> 00:44:00,480
travels you've made a point to go and

971
00:44:06,769 --> 00:44:04,140
visit special sacred places so tell us

972
00:44:08,329 --> 00:44:06,779
what what drove you to go looking and

973
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:08,339
you know what are some of the places

974
00:44:13,039 --> 00:44:09,599
that you come across that you

975
00:44:14,299 --> 00:44:13,049
appreciated the most yeah so when I was

976
00:44:15,529 --> 00:44:14,309
doing that three-year trip around the

977
00:44:17,690 --> 00:44:15,539
world and even when I was in Europe

978
00:44:19,759 --> 00:44:17,700
three months and subsequent trips after

979
00:44:22,130 --> 00:44:19,769
both of them I just found myself

980
00:44:24,319 --> 00:44:22,140
attracted these places and it shouldn't

981
00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:24,329
come as any surprise because when you go

982
00:44:29,299 --> 00:44:27,359
to many locations that's the main thing

983
00:44:32,359 --> 00:44:29,309
you want to go and see for example if

984
00:44:35,329 --> 00:44:32,369
you go to Agra India you're going to see

985
00:44:38,180 --> 00:44:35,339
the Taj Mahal that's there for ya and

986
00:44:40,700 --> 00:44:38,190
the red for it so you're drawn to these

987
00:44:43,069 --> 00:44:40,710
places and you go to them and and many

988
00:44:45,470 --> 00:44:43,079
times at least for me I had these

989
00:44:47,740 --> 00:44:45,480
epiphany moments of course they're

990
00:44:50,299 --> 00:44:47,750
beautiful monuments of humanity and and

991
00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:50,309
amazing in their own right but I think

992
00:44:54,730 --> 00:44:52,079
there's just a little bit more to them

993
00:44:58,569 --> 00:44:54,740
and when I started getting into this

994
00:45:00,620 --> 00:44:58,579
series of books based on sacred places I

995
00:45:03,079 --> 00:45:00,630
found that that that many of these

996
00:45:06,549 --> 00:45:03,089
locations have great histories behind

997
00:45:09,049 --> 00:45:06,559
them and had been pagan temples and and

998
00:45:11,499 --> 00:45:09,059
smaller churches before they became

999
00:45:15,799 --> 00:45:11,509
cathedrals so they have this long line

1000
00:45:18,650 --> 00:45:15,809
lineage of history at this one location

1001
00:45:22,819 --> 00:45:18,660
so it suggested to me that there is this

1002
00:45:25,940 --> 00:45:22,829
power of place so there is this reason

1003
00:45:28,819 --> 00:45:25,950
why somebody decided right here is where

1004
00:45:31,130 --> 00:45:28,829
we're going to build our pagan chapel

1005
00:45:34,249 --> 00:45:31,140
right it could be a well you know sacred

1006
00:45:37,789 --> 00:45:34,259
well it could be just the contour of the

1007
00:45:40,039 --> 00:45:37,799
land what is unseen though is is that

1008
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:40,049
maybe there are ley lines that also

1009
00:45:45,289 --> 00:45:42,240
intersect at that location too and it's

1010
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:45,299
sort of the subconscious yearning for

1011
00:45:49,609 --> 00:45:48,089
worship at these sites so that really

1012
00:45:51,529 --> 00:45:49,619
intrigued me and to answer your question

1013
00:45:54,380 --> 00:45:51,539
as far as what are your best sites well

1014
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:54,390
I often find the oldest sites especially

1015
00:46:00,289 --> 00:45:57,690
in Europe these Neolithic sites are just

1016
00:46:01,850 --> 00:46:00,299
so utterly fascinating and and they

1017
00:46:05,060 --> 00:46:01,860
really still have a

1018
00:46:07,850 --> 00:46:05,070
story to tell for example at Stonehenge

1019
00:46:12,410 --> 00:46:07,860
you can go there on the the solstices

1020
00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:12,420
and see the the lining up of the Sun

1021
00:46:18,590 --> 00:46:14,250
over this heel stone out in the meadow

1022
00:46:22,850 --> 00:46:18,600
right and you can go to a Neolithic

1023
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:22,860
chambers on other significant days of

1024
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:25,290
the year where the light shines right

1025
00:46:31,490 --> 00:46:28,170
into the chamber at Newgrange in Ireland

1026
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:31,500
and highlights this triple spiral motif

1027
00:46:35,900 --> 00:46:34,410
so when you think about all the effort

1028
00:46:38,180 --> 00:46:35,910
that went into building some of these

1029
00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:38,190
places and we're talking megalithic

1030
00:46:47,180 --> 00:46:44,160
design with multi-ton capstones hey

1031
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:47,190
other megalithic features that in and of

1032
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:49,890
itself boggles the mind but then when

1033
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:51,690
you realize that they are built with the

1034
00:46:59,210 --> 00:46:56,010
specific intent of highlighting the

1035
00:47:01,280 --> 00:46:59,220
movement of the earth and the sun beams

1036
00:47:03,740 --> 00:47:01,290
coming through on certain days

1037
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:03,750
especially the solstices and equinoxes

1038
00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:08,970
these places just really bring Stone Age

1039
00:47:13,970 --> 00:47:11,760
Neolithic new stone age people into a

1040
00:47:16,130 --> 00:47:13,980
new light that they are far more

1041
00:47:18,650 --> 00:47:16,140
sophisticated than maybe we've given

1042
00:47:21,410 --> 00:47:18,660
them credit for now just catching up to

1043
00:47:23,150 --> 00:47:21,420
realize how sophisticated they were no I

1044
00:47:25,550 --> 00:47:23,160
think so I think a lot of people are

1045
00:47:27,860 --> 00:47:25,560
starting to realize that maybe we start

1046
00:47:30,230 --> 00:47:27,870
should start looking back to our roots

1047
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:30,240
and how you know our forefathers did

1048
00:47:37,250 --> 00:47:32,640
things and without destroying the planet

1049
00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:37,260
it's it's a thought anyways but in

1050
00:47:43,340 --> 00:47:39,110
working with the Earth's natural

1051
00:47:45,410 --> 00:47:43,350
energies I mean it's there and people

1052
00:47:47,570 --> 00:47:45,420
can feel it people can feel the hair

1053
00:47:49,670 --> 00:47:47,580
stand on their on their arms when they

1054
00:47:52,490 --> 00:47:49,680
go into a spooky room you know so it's

1055
00:47:54,890 --> 00:47:52,500
like there's also other things out there

1056
00:47:57,590 --> 00:47:54,900
that can be felt you know that if people

1057
00:47:59,510 --> 00:47:57,600
just gave it a chance or even came in

1058
00:48:02,270 --> 00:47:59,520
tune with themselves and what's out

1059
00:48:05,690 --> 00:48:02,280
there so that's that's very fascinating

1060
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:05,700
so I mean it's that you you you kind of

1061
00:48:12,620 --> 00:48:09,330
felt the urge to pull these experiences

1062
00:48:14,300 --> 00:48:12,630
into some your writings and it's

1063
00:48:15,940 --> 00:48:14,310
something that has become a major

1064
00:48:18,140 --> 00:48:15,950
passion of yours anchor

1065
00:48:22,250 --> 00:48:18,150
well that's right and then when i

1066
00:48:24,529 --> 00:48:22,260
started my publishing career in 1995 i

1067
00:48:28,609 --> 00:48:24,539
got into travel publishing and as you

1068
00:48:32,329 --> 00:48:28,619
know before all the wars 911 and before

1069
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:32,339
that i considered the late nineties to

1070
00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:34,170
be the golden age of traveling planet

1071
00:48:38,510 --> 00:48:36,569
earth especially for americans who is my

1072
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:38,520
audience because you could virtually go

1073
00:48:42,829 --> 00:48:40,410
anywhere and people liked us and

1074
00:48:44,270 --> 00:48:42,839
accepted us which is still the case in

1075
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:44,280
most places i don't want to discourage

1076
00:48:48,829 --> 00:48:46,650
anyone from traveling but of course now

1077
00:48:51,650 --> 00:48:48,839
the Middle East is pretty much out of

1078
00:48:53,900 --> 00:48:51,660
bounds and fri other places where

1079
00:48:57,799 --> 00:48:53,910
there's a lot of trouble going on you

1080
00:49:00,339 --> 00:48:57,809
want to avoid those places but traveling

1081
00:49:03,260 --> 00:49:00,349
for me was one of the most incredible

1082
00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:03,270
experiences of my life and i felt like i

1083
00:49:08,809 --> 00:49:05,730
had to share that and i did to a degree

1084
00:49:11,029 --> 00:49:08,819
but then the internet came around y2k

1085
00:49:13,819 --> 00:49:11,039
and then i was there for the first

1086
00:49:18,049 --> 00:49:13,829
dot-com bubble and that's when we lost

1087
00:49:20,359 --> 00:49:18,059
the ccc warehouse but what what do you

1088
00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:20,369
mean well they want to triple the rent

1089
00:49:25,549 --> 00:49:23,730
and they did and and we're actually in a

1090
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:25,559
commercial space so they were able to

1091
00:49:31,519 --> 00:49:29,250
get us out of there but the the the

1092
00:49:34,849 --> 00:49:31,529
legacy lives on in the how weird street

1093
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:34,859
faire so it's not say that all is lost

1094
00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:36,960
in fact all has just gotten much much

1095
00:49:46,900 --> 00:49:42,720
bigger but after the internet started

1096
00:49:51,769 --> 00:49:46,910
making headway into most of our lives

1097
00:49:54,500 --> 00:49:51,779
there was also the repercussion of the

1098
00:49:56,690 --> 00:49:54,510
internet basically making travel

1099
00:49:58,519 --> 00:49:56,700
publishing much more challenging because

1100
00:50:01,010 --> 00:49:58,529
you could pretty much search out

1101
00:50:02,930 --> 00:50:01,020
anything you wanted for free on the

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00:50:05,660 --> 00:50:02,940
internet so why would you want to pay

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00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:05,670
for a travel guide right if you could

1104
00:50:10,430 --> 00:50:08,730
get it for free so about five six years

1105
00:50:12,410 --> 00:50:10,440
ago I was doing a bit of soul searching

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00:50:14,029 --> 00:50:12,420
your listen to me honey how's the

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Outlander here an inception radio

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hello folks heidi hollis is rocking the

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and this is MJ from aliens to ghosts

1197
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demons a jerky from shadow people to the

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um welcome back everybody to of my

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00:56:00,140 --> 00:55:58,290
awesome a friday evening years since me

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Heidi house is the Outlander remembering

1201
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:02,490
always if it's weird we're here we are

1202
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:04,610
talking to you you are among friends

1203
00:56:08,780 --> 00:56:06,930
we're giving you advice and insight on

1204
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:08,790
outlandish topics phone lines are always

1205
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:12,570
open 1888 91 92 355 but I do realize

1206
00:56:17,630 --> 00:56:14,610
that most you listen to us through the

1207
00:56:19,580 --> 00:56:17,640
app so it's after the show but that's

1208
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:19,590
okay that's okay because we're having a

1209
00:56:23,720 --> 00:56:22,050
lot of fun on earth on her own we don't

1210
00:56:25,610 --> 00:56:23,730
need those calls it's all good it's all

1211
00:56:27,470 --> 00:56:25,620
good but we do get some sometimes but

1212
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:27,480
you know I wanted to tell you guys real

1213
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:29,610
quick I have a go fund me page up that

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would love for you to go check out so

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gofundme.com backslash the other F word

1216
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ah check it out it's a project i'm

1217
00:56:43,310 --> 00:56:40,290
trying to get flying sooner than later

1218
00:56:46,150 --> 00:56:43,320
and we have again here on the show with

1219
00:56:49,670 --> 00:56:46,160
us Brad Olsen we are talking about

1220
00:56:52,580 --> 00:56:49,680
esoteric things in his partying days in

1221
00:56:55,730 --> 00:56:52,590
his partying ways and how he likes to

1222
00:57:00,770 --> 00:56:55,740
share his knowledge of all the above so

1223
00:57:02,630 --> 00:57:00,780
um you know Brad your you've been so so

1224
00:57:04,790 --> 00:57:02,640
I don't even know how to say you've been

1225
00:57:06,380 --> 00:57:04,800
on so many freaking shows there I said

1226
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:06,390
it even on a lot of different shows

1227
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:08,640
ancient aliens and you were telling me

1228
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:10,050
during the break that you also were on

1229
00:57:14,300 --> 00:57:11,970
America on earth with Scott Wolter a

1230
00:57:17,630 --> 00:57:14,310
what what does that show about and what

1231
00:57:19,910 --> 00:57:17,640
were you doing on that show well that's

1232
00:57:22,030 --> 00:57:19,920
a great show and one that I would have

1233
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:22,040
loved to have been a host myself in

1234
00:57:27,380 --> 00:57:24,930
support of the sacred places but Scott

1235
00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:27,390
beat me to it and he's got a good thing

1236
00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:29,040
going and I support him a hundred

1237
00:57:34,100 --> 00:57:31,920
percent they contacted me about a year

1238
00:57:36,170 --> 00:57:34,110
ago and said we read some of your stuff

1239
00:57:38,270 --> 00:57:36,180
online about the waubansee stone and

1240
00:57:39,350 --> 00:57:38,280
this is right there in Chicago this is

1241
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:39,360
something that you'd find very

1242
00:57:43,670 --> 00:57:41,490
interesting because it's the oldest

1243
00:57:45,830 --> 00:57:43,680
artifact that was found right along the

1244
00:57:48,500 --> 00:57:45,840
banks of the Chicago River father

1245
00:57:52,310 --> 00:57:48,510
marquette louis joliet saw it and the

1246
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:52,320
Indians knew about it and nobody really

1247
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:54,450
knew what it was and it's this big huge

1248
00:57:58,730 --> 00:57:56,850
boulder a glacial erratic that came all

1249
00:58:01,240 --> 00:57:58,740
the way down from Canada and it's got

1250
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:01,250
this big fat face carved on it it's so

1251
00:58:07,059 --> 00:58:04,530
prominent and so amazing that I put it

1252
00:58:10,150 --> 00:58:07,069
on the cover of sacred places north

1253
00:58:12,130 --> 00:58:10,160
Erika and so they found out about me and

1254
00:58:13,930 --> 00:58:12,140
said we want to have you on the show and

1255
00:58:18,779 --> 00:58:13,940
I was in Chicago last summer as I

1256
00:58:23,589 --> 00:58:18,789
normally do travel out there and they

1257
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:23,599
met me in Lyons Illinois at the Chicago

1258
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:27,890
portage a National Monument and right

1259
00:58:33,969 --> 00:58:30,170
there was one of the most important

1260
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:33,979
places in North America and the reason

1261
00:58:39,519 --> 00:58:36,410
why Chicago is where it is do you know

1262
00:58:41,859 --> 00:58:39,529
why no I well because of the Chicago

1263
00:58:44,949 --> 00:58:41,869
portage and the Chicago portage was a

1264
00:58:48,039 --> 00:58:44,959
way to go from the south branch of the

1265
00:58:51,670 --> 00:58:48,049
Chicago River across mud lake which is

1266
00:58:53,949 --> 00:58:51,680
where this park is and enter the display

1267
00:58:55,599 --> 00:58:53,959
nice River flowage which takes you down

1268
00:58:56,949 --> 00:58:55,609
to the Illinois River which then takes

1269
00:58:59,769 --> 00:58:56,959
you to the Mississippi and out to the

1270
00:59:03,339 --> 00:58:59,779
Gulf of Mexico well it was presumed that

1271
00:59:06,489 --> 00:59:03,349
the whoa bonzi stone was created a long

1272
00:59:08,709 --> 00:59:06,499
long time ago in prehistory and Scott

1273
00:59:10,779 --> 00:59:08,719
Wolter agreed with this thesis as well

1274
00:59:13,660 --> 00:59:10,789
that it was carved by the Phoenicians

1275
00:59:16,209 --> 00:59:13,670
who are coming up to Lake Superior with

1276
00:59:19,359 --> 00:59:16,219
an empty ship and filling it with copper

1277
00:59:21,609 --> 00:59:19,369
and then taking it fully laden down

1278
00:59:24,819 --> 00:59:21,619
through the river systems where it would

1279
00:59:28,479 --> 00:59:24,829
be far easier than going over Niagara

1280
00:59:31,299 --> 00:59:28,489
Falls to go out that way and so we met

1281
00:59:33,459 --> 00:59:31,309
there and we talked about how this would

1282
00:59:37,329 --> 00:59:33,469
have been a strategic portage point and

1283
00:59:41,469 --> 00:59:37,339
how the web on Zee stone could have been

1284
00:59:44,019 --> 00:59:41,479
used as an altar for child sacrifice and

1285
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:44,029
the Phoenicians called it a tuffet you

1286
00:59:47,589 --> 00:59:46,130
know kind of bookends what we were

1287
00:59:50,709 --> 00:59:47,599
talking about the beginning of the show

1288
00:59:52,299 --> 00:59:50,719
with your listener right ends so that

1289
00:59:55,569 --> 00:59:52,309
was a great show and people can look it

1290
00:59:57,609 --> 00:59:55,579
up and see me on america unearthed the

1291
00:59:59,859 --> 00:59:57,619
they named the episode the bloodstone

1292
01:00:02,049 --> 00:59:59,869
you might want to do that for search but

1293
01:00:06,009 --> 01:00:02,059
i do believe there are episodes that are

1294
01:00:09,489 --> 01:00:06,019
now available to to watch so though yeah

1295
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:09,499
yeah i looked up the lebanese the stone

1296
01:00:15,699 --> 01:00:12,410
and it kind of looks like buddha without

1297
01:00:17,769 --> 01:00:15,709
the belly well what's so strange about

1298
01:00:20,319 --> 01:00:17,779
it is that there's a big cavity on the

1299
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:20,329
top of it which is a perfect size for an

1300
01:00:24,220 --> 01:00:20,810
infant

1301
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:24,230
and then it drains out the man's mouth

1302
01:00:29,890 --> 01:00:27,290
and then you see he has a goatee in

1303
01:00:32,290 --> 01:00:29,900
another catch basin where the blood

1304
01:00:34,570 --> 01:00:32,300
would have flowed through and Indians

1305
01:00:37,740 --> 01:00:34,580
didn't have facial hair so what's this

1306
01:00:41,260 --> 01:00:37,750
guy doing with a goatee and the they

1307
01:00:45,220 --> 01:00:41,270
practiced the grisly infant sacrifice

1308
01:00:47,620 --> 01:00:45,230
before major voyages such as going into

1309
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:47,630
the narrow waterways and being far more

1310
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:50,210
susceptible to attack than they were on

1311
01:00:56,860 --> 01:00:54,650
the open wide open Lake so this is what

1312
01:00:59,970 --> 01:00:56,870
we think it was for of course well bonzi

1313
01:01:02,730 --> 01:00:59,980
was the name of a chief and so the best

1314
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:02,740
anybody could come up with was that so

1315
01:01:08,170 --> 01:01:06,170
some unnamed foot soldier in Fort

1316
01:01:11,530 --> 01:01:08,180
Dearborn had so much time on his hands

1317
01:01:14,650 --> 01:01:11,540
he carved this face of chief whoa bonzi

1318
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:14,660
who then became an enemy and I think may

1319
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:17,570
have been even killed by a tus troop so

1320
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:19,010
that that story really doesn't make much

1321
01:01:24,580 --> 01:01:22,490
sense wow that's really crazy it's like

1322
01:01:28,150 --> 01:01:24,590
what did this man eat babies that's

1323
01:01:30,190 --> 01:01:28,160
disgusting i mean i remember this is

1324
01:01:32,140 --> 01:01:30,200
terrible I'm thinking of austin powers

1325
01:01:36,090 --> 01:01:32,150
and how you know that character Fat

1326
01:01:38,890 --> 01:01:36,100
Bastard eight babies but anyways um I

1327
01:01:41,860 --> 01:01:38,900
love that movie was hilarious but um

1328
01:01:44,500 --> 01:01:41,870
that's crazy but I've got a I've got a

1329
01:01:47,110 --> 01:01:44,510
question here in the chat room they're

1330
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:47,120
asking if you've actually seen that

1331
01:01:51,430 --> 01:01:49,250
stone that's all I have indeed and I

1332
01:01:53,860 --> 01:01:51,440
shot the photo on the cover of sacred

1333
01:01:57,010 --> 01:01:53,870
places in North America when it was

1334
01:01:59,290 --> 01:01:57,020
still on display in the Chicago

1335
01:02:02,290 --> 01:01:59,300
Historical Society which is now the

1336
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:02,300
Chicago History Museum and they took it

1337
01:02:07,450 --> 01:02:04,970
out but Scott Wolter when he was filming

1338
01:02:09,420 --> 01:02:07,460
the show went to an undisclosed location

1339
01:02:11,410 --> 01:02:09,430
they don't want to tell you where it is

1340
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:11,420
where they have a whole bunch of

1341
01:02:15,010 --> 01:02:12,770
artifacts that they don't have on

1342
01:02:17,890 --> 01:02:15,020
display any more including the waubansee

1343
01:02:19,630 --> 01:02:17,900
stone so now it is not available to be

1344
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:19,640
seen but I did get a chance to see it

1345
01:02:23,650 --> 01:02:22,010
and examine it when I was working on

1346
01:02:27,460 --> 01:02:23,660
sacred places North America about ten

1347
01:02:29,620 --> 01:02:27,470
years ago oh how freaking cool it said

1348
01:02:32,410 --> 01:02:29,630
how these things happen I don't know why

1349
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:32,420
things get hidden away from public view

1350
01:02:34,690 --> 01:02:34,370
and in fact it's kind of leads into a

1351
01:02:36,430 --> 01:02:34,700
great

1352
01:02:38,500 --> 01:02:36,440
question that supposes in a chat room as

1353
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:38,510
well it says if you've noticed any

1354
01:02:44,470 --> 01:02:40,970
similar rewrites of history between

1355
01:02:47,530 --> 01:02:44,480
European and Asian cultures oh boy

1356
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:47,540
they're going on practically a daily

1357
01:02:54,069 --> 01:02:51,170
basis oh really where to begin sure I

1358
01:02:56,620 --> 01:02:54,079
mean I did a DVD that people can get off

1359
01:02:59,109 --> 01:02:56,630
a ccc publishing website or on amazon

1360
01:03:01,599 --> 01:02:59,119
called the prehistoric stone chambers of

1361
01:03:03,310 --> 01:03:01,609
New England which I explored while i was

1362
01:03:05,650 --> 01:03:03,320
doing sacred place in north america and

1363
01:03:07,870 --> 01:03:05,660
have been back there many times whenever

1364
01:03:10,359 --> 01:03:07,880
I'm out east I go find a new one that I

1365
01:03:13,210 --> 01:03:10,369
haven't been to before and look this

1366
01:03:15,220 --> 01:03:13,220
last time a couple years ago I got a

1367
01:03:19,329 --> 01:03:15,230
whole bunch and we put him on this DVD

1368
01:03:21,790 --> 01:03:19,339
and that's a major rewrite of history

1369
01:03:26,260 --> 01:03:21,800
because what these stone chambers show

1370
01:03:29,589 --> 01:03:26,270
are these perfect beehive stone chambers

1371
01:03:33,670 --> 01:03:29,599
which are only really built in Europe

1372
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:33,680
and again they were of antiquity not

1373
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:36,170
quite as old as the Neolithic sites more

1374
01:03:43,690 --> 01:03:39,890
of a medieval building period but it's

1375
01:03:46,690 --> 01:03:43,700
presumed that the coldy monks of Ireland

1376
01:03:49,540 --> 01:03:46,700
were escaping Vikings and other terror

1377
01:03:51,370 --> 01:03:49,550
and Europe at the time and came across

1378
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:51,380
the Atlantic on what they called the

1379
01:03:56,380 --> 01:03:53,930
stepping stones and it makes perfect

1380
01:03:58,930 --> 01:03:56,390
sense because you barely have to sail

1381
01:04:02,200 --> 01:03:58,940
more than a day before you can seal and

1382
01:04:04,780 --> 01:04:02,210
if you go from Scotland to the hub

1383
01:04:08,380 --> 01:04:04,790
reidy's to the Orkney Islands to the

1384
01:04:11,500 --> 01:04:08,390
Faroe Islands to Iceland to Greenland to

1385
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:11,510
Labrador to Nova Scotia to New England

1386
01:04:18,069 --> 01:04:14,210
and this is exactly how the Vikings came

1387
01:04:21,540 --> 01:04:18,079
over as well and and built a Leafs

1388
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:21,550
longhouse and what I believe was

1389
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:24,170
Massachusetts in New England where he

1390
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:27,650
said we found grapes growing wild and we

1391
01:04:33,790 --> 01:04:29,930
picked him and he had a slave on his

1392
01:04:36,579 --> 01:04:33,800
ship where they were able to hit the

1393
01:04:39,609 --> 01:04:36,589
slave to Ryker was his name knew how to

1394
01:04:42,430 --> 01:04:39,619
make wine so Leif the lucky came back to

1395
01:04:44,260 --> 01:04:42,440
Greenland he came for wood which of

1396
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:44,270
course there's plenty of trees in New

1397
01:04:51,309 --> 01:04:48,170
England and barrels of wine so

1398
01:04:53,260 --> 01:04:51,319
his father Eric the Red passed away Leif

1399
01:04:55,150 --> 01:04:53,270
never came back to North America but his

1400
01:04:57,579 --> 01:04:55,160
younger brothers did and his sister did

1401
01:05:00,309 --> 01:04:57,589
and many other people from the Greenland

1402
01:05:03,059 --> 01:05:00,319
colony so talk about rewriting history I

1403
01:05:06,339 --> 01:05:03,069
mean America North American history

1404
01:05:08,589 --> 01:05:06,349
really has it all wrong Columbus was no

1405
01:05:11,319 --> 01:05:08,599
unique discovery it had been going on

1406
01:05:13,530 --> 01:05:11,329
for hundreds perhaps thousands of years

1407
01:05:15,549 --> 01:05:13,540
if we incorporate the Phoenicians

1408
01:05:17,470 --> 01:05:15,559
thinking about the natives I mean

1409
01:05:19,510 --> 01:05:17,480
where'd they come from I think they're

1410
01:05:22,359 --> 01:05:19,520
the ones that discovered things that's

1411
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:22,369
right of course that's like my goodness

1412
01:05:28,089 --> 01:05:24,730
wow that's that's absolutely fascinate

1413
01:05:29,890 --> 01:05:28,099
you know I kind of get why people try to

1414
01:05:32,109 --> 01:05:29,900
hide some of our history but then I

1415
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:32,119
don't really get it it's like I just

1416
01:05:35,530 --> 01:05:33,770
find it so much more fascinating than

1417
01:05:37,420 --> 01:05:35,540
what that has been revealed and it's

1418
01:05:39,670 --> 01:05:37,430
like why not share it what do you think

1419
01:05:43,559 --> 01:05:39,680
it's a big diff deal that they're doing

1420
01:05:45,220 --> 01:05:43,569
this well a lot of it is because

1421
01:05:48,430 --> 01:05:45,230
historians are typically very

1422
01:05:51,970 --> 01:05:48,440
conservative and this stuff goes back to

1423
01:05:54,130 --> 01:05:51,980
manifest destiny and white people

1424
01:05:57,220 --> 01:05:54,140
feeling that they had the moral right to

1425
01:06:00,520 --> 01:05:57,230
take the Indians land a lot of things

1426
01:06:03,670 --> 01:06:00,530
that we would dismiss nowadays is quite

1427
01:06:05,950 --> 01:06:03,680
frankly racist reasons for conquering

1428
01:06:08,140 --> 01:06:05,960
North America because like I said of

1429
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:08,150
course the Indians were here much much

1430
01:06:14,859 --> 01:06:12,530
earlier and just right here in in San

1431
01:06:17,109 --> 01:06:14,869
Francisco where I'm at I've been trying

1432
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:17,119
to get the American unearthed team to

1433
01:06:22,450 --> 01:06:19,970
come out here and do a piece on st.

1434
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:22,460
Francis Bay that was the original name

1435
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:24,290
of the San Francisco Bay and of course

1436
01:06:33,309 --> 01:06:28,490
San Francisco uh-huh st. Francis well

1437
01:06:36,250 --> 01:06:33,319
sir francis drake is uh who came here

1438
01:06:43,510 --> 01:06:36,260
first and you see now if we establish a

1439
01:06:47,109 --> 01:06:43,520
British sailor coming in and laying

1440
01:06:49,390 --> 01:06:47,119
claim to the west coast well you got a

1441
01:06:52,180 --> 01:06:49,400
big problem with territory just in the

1442
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:52,190
same way if the Scandinavians laid claim

1443
01:06:56,950 --> 01:06:54,530
to New England you got a big problem

1444
01:06:58,839 --> 01:06:56,960
there so it was much easier just to say

1445
01:07:01,700 --> 01:06:58,849
hey Columbus made this unique discovery

1446
01:07:04,070 --> 01:07:01,710
and all the explorers came after

1447
01:07:06,230 --> 01:07:04,080
that and that's the way history goes and

1448
01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:06,240
just ignore all the other other evidence

1449
01:07:10,790 --> 01:07:08,910
to the contrary and but to me I think

1450
01:07:13,490 --> 01:07:10,800
that's wrong and and we need to tell the

1451
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:13,500
story as it is oh my goodness me you

1452
01:07:17,930 --> 01:07:15,930
know it maybe it was simplifying so they

1453
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:17,940
got writer's cramp their hand was

1454
01:07:22,220 --> 01:07:19,410
locking up on him they didn't feel like

1455
01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:22,230
riding anywhere down I don't know it's

1456
01:07:28,670 --> 01:07:25,200
like that's just a ridiculous but I get

1457
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:28,680
it I do I get it ok so now getting into

1458
01:07:35,660 --> 01:07:31,890
some of the weirder aspects of your work

1459
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:35,670
and one of my favorite topics aliens and

1460
01:07:39,500 --> 01:07:37,770
the things that they have been involved

1461
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:39,510
in as far as sacred places are concerned

1462
01:07:44,870 --> 01:07:42,330
what is it that you feel are probably

1463
01:07:47,859 --> 01:07:44,880
some of the more I don't know in your

1464
01:07:52,250 --> 01:07:47,869
face and alien did this type of thing oh

1465
01:07:55,070 --> 01:07:52,260
good question well I when I was telling

1466
01:07:58,460 --> 01:07:55,080
the story about how travel writing kind

1467
01:08:01,190 --> 01:07:58,470
of went the wayside with the advent of

1468
01:08:03,349 --> 01:08:01,200
the internet and i was looking at

1469
01:08:05,630 --> 01:08:03,359
getting into some new subject matter

1470
01:08:08,150 --> 01:08:05,640
what was really near and dear to my

1471
01:08:10,700 --> 01:08:08,160
heart were all the real unexplained

1472
01:08:14,089 --> 01:08:10,710
mysteries in the world and this was the

1473
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:14,099
birth of the esoteric series and the

1474
01:08:19,550 --> 01:08:16,410
first book is modern esoteric which is

1475
01:08:22,849 --> 01:08:19,560
taking a look back and starting with

1476
01:08:25,729 --> 01:08:22,859
antediluvian civilizations and the

1477
01:08:30,079 --> 01:08:25,739
possible genetic tinkering of the human

1478
01:08:32,510 --> 01:08:30,089
race to so many subjects that have been

1479
01:08:35,900 --> 01:08:32,520
withheld from us including the mystery

1480
01:08:38,209 --> 01:08:35,910
schools and sacred geometry and so many

1481
01:08:41,180 --> 01:08:38,219
things that are out there for us to

1482
01:08:43,039 --> 01:08:41,190
discover but sometimes they're very

1483
01:08:46,130 --> 01:08:43,049
complicated subject so what I've tried

1484
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:46,140
to do is condense them each subject into

1485
01:08:51,019 --> 01:08:48,890
a chapter in modern esoteric so that's

1486
01:08:53,300 --> 01:08:51,029
looking back all the way up to this

1487
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:53,310
modern age whereas the second book in

1488
01:08:58,760 --> 01:08:55,650
the series future esoteric the unseen

1489
01:09:01,760 --> 01:08:58,770
realms takes a forward-looking stance

1490
01:09:07,599 --> 01:09:01,770
and this is when I introduced many of

1491
01:09:10,670 --> 01:09:07,609
the topics concerning ETS phenomenon and

1492
01:09:14,150 --> 01:09:10,680
who we are and maybe where we're going

1493
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:14,160
in into a possible utopia type scenario

1494
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:15,330
which I hope time

1495
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:20,730
one is humanity waking up and then going

1496
01:09:26,290 --> 01:09:23,010
into what is has been termed the golden

1497
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:26,300
age and in future esoteric I do get into

1498
01:09:31,910 --> 01:09:30,690
quite a bit of all the UFO subjects and

1499
01:09:35,480 --> 01:09:31,920
and this is what's got me on

1500
01:09:38,510 --> 01:09:35,490
coast-to-coast and ancient aliens and so

1501
01:09:40,930 --> 01:09:38,520
many other programs so I talked about

1502
01:09:44,270 --> 01:09:40,940
everything from underground bases to

1503
01:09:47,300 --> 01:09:44,280
cattle mutilations alien abductions a

1504
01:09:49,610 --> 01:09:47,310
backward engineering the Fourth Reich

1505
01:09:52,430 --> 01:09:49,620
and and the introduction of fascism

1506
01:09:54,860 --> 01:09:52,440
through project paper clip and and

1507
01:09:56,660 --> 01:09:54,870
basically how we got into the pickle

1508
01:09:59,630 --> 01:09:56,670
that we find ourselves today which is

1509
01:10:01,430 --> 01:09:59,640
this creeping fascism into this great

1510
01:10:03,740 --> 01:10:01,440
country of ours in the whittling away of

1511
01:10:06,620 --> 01:10:03,750
the Constitutional Rights and the Bill

1512
01:10:09,470 --> 01:10:06,630
of Rights that we have and how they find

1513
01:10:11,870 --> 01:10:09,480
little clever ways to do workarounds and

1514
01:10:14,090 --> 01:10:11,880
so I just want people to wake up and

1515
01:10:19,330 --> 01:10:14,100
I've always said my mantra is people

1516
01:10:21,710 --> 01:10:19,340
have a right to know yeah and for my

1517
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:21,720
storytelling skills I guess that's the

1518
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:25,170
best way you can say how a writer can be

1519
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:27,570
effective as if they can just put

1520
01:10:31,850 --> 01:10:29,610
together a complicated subject and make

1521
01:10:33,620 --> 01:10:31,860
it accessible to just about everyone and

1522
01:10:36,530 --> 01:10:33,630
that's what I try to do in in the

1523
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:36,540
esoteric series of books that's cool so

1524
01:10:41,870 --> 01:10:38,850
I mean you know I always find it

1525
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:41,880
fascinating and like to ask the question

1526
01:10:47,480 --> 01:10:44,850
and to see what drives a person to do

1527
01:10:48,860 --> 01:10:47,490
what they do and I think he just spelled

1528
01:10:52,970 --> 01:10:48,870
it out just now you think people deserve

1529
01:10:55,580 --> 01:10:52,980
to know and it's just it's a gut thing

1530
01:10:58,010 --> 01:10:55,590
it with you that it's just such passion

1531
01:10:59,300 --> 01:10:58,020
driven I mean it just spews out of you I

1532
01:11:03,560 --> 01:10:59,310
don't know if you know this i mean it's

1533
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:03,570
it's quite out there so it's it's kind

1534
01:11:07,580 --> 01:11:05,250
of a cool thing though I mean it I

1535
01:11:09,890 --> 01:11:07,590
really commend you on your work I mean

1536
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:09,900
that's really that's really a meaningful

1537
01:11:15,260 --> 01:11:12,690
and it and you're helping who knows how

1538
01:11:17,540 --> 01:11:15,270
many people to open their eyes to what's

1539
01:11:19,910 --> 01:11:17,550
going on in the world and spell it out

1540
01:11:23,780 --> 01:11:19,920
to them and the way that they can accept

1541
01:11:25,460 --> 01:11:23,790
it so I oh thank you very much hiding

1542
01:11:27,860 --> 01:11:25,470
and you know when people say what

1543
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:27,870
difference can I make I say you can make

1544
01:11:32,189 --> 01:11:29,489
a huge bit of difference

1545
01:11:34,709 --> 01:11:32,199
and it doesn't even mean throwing

1546
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:34,719
another festival for 20,000 people doesn

1547
01:11:42,330 --> 01:11:38,650
t mean publishing a dozen books it means

1548
01:11:45,030 --> 01:11:42,340
putting yourself in the mindset that you

1549
01:11:47,790 --> 01:11:45,040
want to be in service to others and this

1550
01:11:50,129 --> 01:11:47,800
is so very crucial because we're

1551
01:11:52,109 --> 01:11:50,139
basically inundated with suggestions

1552
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:52,119
that it's all about money and power and

1553
01:11:57,300 --> 01:11:54,850
fame and me me me me me it's not about

1554
01:12:00,780 --> 01:11:57,310
that at all it's about serving our

1555
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:00,790
fellow humans and if you can do it in

1556
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:03,850
just the very smallest way like I give

1557
01:12:07,649 --> 01:12:05,770
change to homeless people whenever they

1558
01:12:11,250 --> 01:12:07,659
ask it doesn't mean anything to me it

1559
01:12:13,669 --> 01:12:11,260
makes a huge gesture to them who have

1560
01:12:17,430 --> 01:12:13,679
nothing it's little things like that

1561
01:12:19,709 --> 01:12:17,440
actually have a repercussion effect and

1562
01:12:22,649 --> 01:12:19,719
you will start seeing changes in your

1563
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:22,659
life when you start making an avowed

1564
01:12:29,490 --> 01:12:26,170
change to be in service to others and i

1565
01:12:31,169 --> 01:12:29,500
highly recommend it no it's just you may

1566
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:31,179
not have anything left your pockets if

1567
01:12:35,100 --> 01:12:32,530
you walk down the Magnificent Mile

1568
01:12:38,010 --> 01:12:35,110
you're in chicago but i understand what

1569
01:12:39,540 --> 01:12:38,020
you're speaking of you know it's just a

1570
01:12:42,810 --> 01:12:39,550
lot of people asking for cash all the

1571
01:12:45,390 --> 01:12:42,820
time but it I I know what you're saying

1572
01:12:48,870 --> 01:12:45,400
now now this is a very very very

1573
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:48,880
important question Brad because I liked

1574
01:12:55,830 --> 01:12:51,610
I like to dig in a little bit deeper and

1575
01:12:59,640 --> 01:12:55,840
find if you have personally experienced

1576
01:13:01,379 --> 01:12:59,650
something out of the ordinary that helps

1577
01:13:05,189 --> 01:13:01,389
inspire you just a little bit more than

1578
01:13:08,100 --> 01:13:05,199
the regular person you're asking if I've

1579
01:13:10,530 --> 01:13:08,110
seen phenomenon amen brother going the

1580
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:10,540
answers yes I have and in fact this was

1581
01:13:15,450 --> 01:13:13,570
really the deep down inspiration for

1582
01:13:18,629 --> 01:13:15,460
doing the esoteric series because in the

1583
01:13:20,820 --> 01:13:18,639
summer of nineteen ninety-seven I was

1584
01:13:23,370 --> 01:13:20,830
traveling through the whole Pacific

1585
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:23,380
Northwest and it was with this group of

1586
01:13:27,510 --> 01:13:24,489
guys and we were having a great time

1587
01:13:30,390 --> 01:13:27,520
camping around and we were at Crater

1588
01:13:33,629 --> 01:13:30,400
Lake in Oregon and it was at sunset

1589
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:33,639
right right around now around the summer

1590
01:13:38,220 --> 01:13:36,610
solstice and we had gone up to the

1591
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:38,230
highest point and crater lake and we

1592
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:40,449
were just commando camping up there

1593
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:42,130
you're not supposed to go there but it's

1594
01:13:45,570 --> 01:13:43,090
about eight nine

1595
01:13:48,780 --> 01:13:45,580
and feet up and we're just watching the

1596
01:13:52,050 --> 01:13:48,790
sunset and smoking a little herbal

1597
01:13:53,940 --> 01:13:52,060
remedy but that had nothing to do with

1598
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:53,950
it because the people i was with saw

1599
01:14:04,800 --> 01:13:57,130
exactly what I saw and basically it was

1600
01:14:08,850 --> 01:14:04,810
a very bright no way this just did not

1601
01:14:13,410 --> 01:14:08,860
happen we did not just lose him MJ not

1602
01:14:16,440 --> 01:14:13,420
right then am I still on tap tap tap

1603
01:14:19,260 --> 01:14:16,450
this thing on that didn't happen no

1604
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:19,270
really oh there is can you hear me yeah

1605
01:14:24,300 --> 01:14:22,210
I'm here oh thank god are you serious

1606
01:14:26,700 --> 01:14:24,310
I'm like right when you said if we saw

1607
01:14:29,310 --> 01:14:26,710
this big bright there's no more bread

1608
01:14:31,260 --> 01:14:29,320
come on man that just didn't happen so

1609
01:14:37,110 --> 01:14:31,270
you got to pick it up from I saw this

1610
01:14:40,050 --> 01:14:37,120
big bright light a laser beam bright

1611
01:14:42,210 --> 01:14:40,060
light and it was still it was still dusk

1612
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:42,220
out so it wasn't night or anything but

1613
01:14:48,260 --> 01:14:45,970
it lasted for many several seconds up to

1614
01:14:51,780 --> 01:14:48,270
ten seconds we saw this thing streaking

1615
01:14:55,650 --> 01:14:51,790
through the sky completely without sound

1616
01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:55,660
and going right into the depth of crater

1617
01:15:01,140 --> 01:14:57,970
lake which is one of the deepest lakes

1618
01:15:04,250 --> 01:15:01,150
in North America and most phenomenon

1619
01:15:07,530 --> 01:15:04,260
most UFO sightings are in and around

1620
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:07,540
volcanoes so this was so incredible and

1621
01:15:11,250 --> 01:15:09,370
we had a few other friends who got up

1622
01:15:13,290 --> 01:15:11,260
ahead of us and may or may not have seen

1623
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:13,300
it so we're rushing up the hill to see

1624
01:15:16,830 --> 01:15:15,250
if they saw it the three of us

1625
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:16,840
definitely confirmed we all saw the same

1626
01:15:23,370 --> 01:15:19,690
thing and then just about a minute later

1627
01:15:26,130 --> 01:15:23,380
we saw the exact same thing happen way

1628
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:26,140
over in the distance you could see Mount

1629
01:15:31,500 --> 01:15:28,930
Shasta to the south of us and a big

1630
01:15:33,540 --> 01:15:31,510
bright like streaked right into the

1631
01:15:35,670 --> 01:15:33,550
center of that mountain too and what I

1632
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:35,680
remember about it that was so unusual is

1633
01:15:41,670 --> 01:15:38,890
that it broke off into blips of squares

1634
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:41,680
kind of like a digital thought thought

1635
01:15:47,100 --> 01:15:45,250
thought thought of perfect squares and I

1636
01:15:50,220 --> 01:15:47,110
still to this day cannot explain that

1637
01:15:53,340 --> 01:15:50,230
but the fact that I could get no answers

1638
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:53,350
whatsoever as to what this was except

1639
01:15:58,680 --> 01:15:56,530
for official ridicule that

1640
01:16:00,510 --> 01:15:58,690
this didn't happen but I know it did I

1641
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:00,520
have a photographic memory I remember

1642
01:16:06,660 --> 01:16:02,890
like it was yesterday that I started

1643
01:16:08,910 --> 01:16:06,670
this quest to chronicle all the s Turk

1644
01:16:10,620 --> 01:16:08,920
subjects well in fact I'm working on

1645
01:16:13,380 --> 01:16:10,630
book 3 right now but it still gotta

1646
01:16:14,970 --> 01:16:13,390
about a year or two to go good I I've

1647
01:16:17,370 --> 01:16:14,980
just got to just clarify you said you

1648
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:17,380
saw perfect squares I did I miss that

1649
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:21,130
you said drawn in the sky well it was it

1650
01:16:26,550 --> 01:16:23,890
was in line to where the light this

1651
01:16:29,370 --> 01:16:26,560
laser beam white light was first

1652
01:16:32,570 --> 01:16:29,380
streaking solid and then it started

1653
01:16:34,860 --> 01:16:32,580
breaking off into perfect square blips

1654
01:16:37,500 --> 01:16:34,870
until you couldn't see anything anymore

1655
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:37,510
but it was aiming towards right into the

1656
01:16:44,370 --> 01:16:42,370
depths of the lake wow I can't explain

1657
01:16:46,590 --> 01:16:44,380
it any more than that I just know

1658
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:46,600
exactly what I saw in the guys who has

1659
01:16:52,710 --> 01:16:49,170
with saw that and saw the Mount Shasta

1660
01:16:56,490 --> 01:16:52,720
bright light exactly the way I described

1661
01:16:57,780 --> 01:16:56,500
it unbelievable that is you know when

1662
01:17:00,900 --> 01:16:57,790
you see something like that it really

1663
01:17:03,780 --> 01:17:00,910
just does change a person's perspective

1664
01:17:05,580 --> 01:17:03,790
on the world it really tests because

1665
01:17:08,070 --> 01:17:05,590
it's like you can't question your own

1666
01:17:09,750 --> 01:17:08,080
eyeballs and then you got other eyeballs

1667
01:17:12,810 --> 01:17:09,760
watching right along with you and it's

1668
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:12,820
like something's going on and and I I

1669
01:17:16,410 --> 01:17:14,890
understand the drive behind you know

1670
01:17:18,060 --> 01:17:16,420
trying to find some answers for people

1671
01:17:20,790 --> 01:17:18,070
so there's a lot of controversy

1672
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:20,800
surrounding your your newer mission with

1673
01:17:26,990 --> 01:17:23,770
these this book series huh well there is

1674
01:17:30,690 --> 01:17:27,000
and the fact that all I could get was

1675
01:17:32,490 --> 01:17:30,700
official ridicule and denial really set

1676
01:17:35,130 --> 01:17:32,500
me off on a course to figure this out

1677
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:35,140
and then to see that what they're really

1678
01:17:40,590 --> 01:17:37,330
trying to cover up is something much

1679
01:17:42,870 --> 01:17:40,600
much bigger and that is the secret space

1680
01:17:44,820 --> 01:17:42,880
program through backward engineered

1681
01:17:48,930 --> 01:17:44,830
technology that goes all the way back to

1682
01:17:50,460 --> 01:17:48,940
the Nazis and 1930s and this is

1683
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:50,470
something that's really going to blow

1684
01:17:55,380 --> 01:17:54,010
people's minds once it comes out and and

1685
01:17:57,840 --> 01:17:55,390
people are going to be angry and

1686
01:18:01,350 --> 01:17:57,850
rightfully so to know that we've been

1687
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:01,360
duped for many decades and withheld the

1688
01:18:07,050 --> 01:18:04,410
truth which to me is absolutely wrong

1689
01:18:10,140 --> 01:18:07,060
last I heard we were living in a free

1690
01:18:12,780 --> 01:18:10,150
and open society I guess that's debated

1691
01:18:15,149 --> 01:18:12,790
now but again people have a right to

1692
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:15,159
know this stuff I really do you know I'm

1693
01:18:19,620 --> 01:18:17,290
somebody who you know I don't think I'm

1694
01:18:23,100 --> 01:18:19,630
anybody special but I've had the

1695
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:23,110
government harass me my family and been

1696
01:18:31,020 --> 01:18:27,610
taken to military bases even in question

1697
01:18:33,870 --> 01:18:31,030
yeah and you know it's it's a crazy

1698
01:18:36,330 --> 01:18:33,880
thing to experience and then be like I

1699
01:18:40,350 --> 01:18:36,340
know what I experienced I know what

1700
01:18:42,570 --> 01:18:40,360
happened and it's it really i don't

1701
01:18:44,910 --> 01:18:42,580
think anything has angered me more ever

1702
01:18:48,500 --> 01:18:44,920
in my life than knowing that our own

1703
01:18:50,580 --> 01:18:48,510
people are taking our own people and

1704
01:18:52,700 --> 01:18:50,590
interrogating them and acting like these

1705
01:18:56,370 --> 01:18:52,710
things haven't happened I I think that's

1706
01:19:00,209 --> 01:18:56,380
it's just really just glides my fire you

1707
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:00,219
know and i'm like i would love to you

1708
01:19:05,070 --> 01:19:02,170
know see the day when these things get

1709
01:19:08,669 --> 01:19:05,080
on earth and covered uncovered so the

1710
01:19:10,350 --> 01:19:08,679
world can go aha you freaking a holes

1711
01:19:12,270 --> 01:19:10,360
have been doing this whole time you know

1712
01:19:14,430 --> 01:19:12,280
let's just get down to it already I mean

1713
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:14,440
there's just too many people who are

1714
01:19:20,580 --> 01:19:16,690
suffering needlessly I mean just because

1715
01:19:23,790 --> 01:19:20,590
of this the secrecy to hoard knowledge I

1716
01:19:26,820 --> 01:19:23,800
don't get it I don't get it it's greed

1717
01:19:29,729 --> 01:19:26,830
outright greed so uh so what's in the

1718
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:29,739
near future for you as far as any

1719
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:31,810
television appearance is coming up and

1720
01:19:35,790 --> 01:19:33,730
the the books you said you've got part 3

1721
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:35,800
and 2 and all that coming out Sue's

1722
01:19:43,620 --> 01:19:41,050
though well I I got in touch with this

1723
01:19:47,340 --> 01:19:43,630
best-selling author from Italy named Leo

1724
01:19:49,410 --> 01:19:47,350
Lyons agami and through my business ccc

1725
01:19:51,570 --> 01:19:49,420
publishing we signed a five book deal

1726
01:19:54,570 --> 01:19:51,580
we've already got out of his first book

1727
01:19:58,260 --> 01:19:54,580
which is called the last Pope about Pope

1728
01:20:00,419 --> 01:19:58,270
Francis money Mason's and occultism in

1729
01:20:02,970 --> 01:20:00,429
the decline of the Catholic Church you

1730
01:20:06,149 --> 01:20:02,980
can pick that book up on ccc publishing

1731
01:20:08,850 --> 01:20:06,159
com or Amazon or any bookstore and we're

1732
01:20:10,770 --> 01:20:08,860
coming out with his series of three

1733
01:20:13,590 --> 01:20:10,780
books called confessions of an

1734
01:20:15,510 --> 01:20:13,600
Illuminati and volume one comes out at

1735
01:20:18,090 --> 01:20:15,520
the end of the year it's great book I

1736
01:20:21,750 --> 01:20:18,100
just finished editing and reading the

1737
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:21,760
whole thing and once again this is going

1738
01:20:25,890 --> 01:20:23,890
to help people understand

1739
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:25,900
that there is a control group out there

1740
01:20:30,300 --> 01:20:28,930
I call them the Cabal Leo calls him the

1741
01:20:33,420 --> 01:20:30,310
Illuminati they're one in the same

1742
01:20:37,440 --> 01:20:33,430
they've been around for a long time they

1743
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:37,450
like to keep us ignorant and under their

1744
01:20:43,050 --> 01:20:39,970
wraps but this whole thing is starting

1745
01:20:47,430 --> 01:20:43,060
to unravel basically it's getting harder

1746
01:20:50,250 --> 01:20:47,440
and harder to keep secrets and it Leo

1747
01:20:52,950 --> 01:20:50,260
from his perspective coming from an

1748
01:20:55,860 --> 01:20:52,960
Illuminati family like an aristocratic

1749
01:20:59,250 --> 01:20:55,870
family in Italy as well as his

1750
01:21:01,770 --> 01:20:59,260
experience with the p2 Lodge and living

1751
01:21:03,030 --> 01:21:01,780
not far away from the Vatican at all and

1752
01:21:06,660 --> 01:21:03,040
what's really interesting about this

1753
01:21:09,900 --> 01:21:06,670
book the last pope is that he in italy

1754
01:21:12,690 --> 01:21:09,910
picks up all these news stories about

1755
01:21:15,690 --> 01:21:12,700
the pedophile priests about child

1756
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:15,700
prostitutes caught with bishops from the

1757
01:21:21,150 --> 01:21:18,610
Vatican who cannot be prosecuted because

1758
01:21:24,330 --> 01:21:21,160
Vatican City is its own city state and

1759
01:21:26,580 --> 01:21:24,340
immune from the laws of Italy we don't

1760
01:21:28,770 --> 01:21:26,590
get those stories here but he gets some

1761
01:21:30,450 --> 01:21:28,780
he chronicles them and he puts them in

1762
01:21:33,480 --> 01:21:30,460
his book so these are very important

1763
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:33,490
books and I'd like to get Leo on your

1764
01:21:38,940 --> 01:21:36,370
show someday talking about them yeah cuz

1765
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:38,950
this is really really important stuff

1766
01:21:43,230 --> 01:21:41,290
let's just hope that the Vatican Mafia

1767
01:21:45,510 --> 01:21:43,240
doesn't take me out before we do it I've

1768
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:45,520
already had experiences being taken away

1769
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:47,890
you know I'd analyst Heidi of course

1770
01:21:52,440 --> 01:21:51,250
yeah well Brad Olson I really want to

1771
01:21:53,940 --> 01:21:52,450
thank you so much for coming on you were

1772
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:53,950
a blast to have and I would definitely

1773
01:21:58,650 --> 01:21:55,930
love to have you come back on in any of

1774
01:22:00,630 --> 01:21:58,660
your authors to I mean come on just get

1775
01:22:02,430 --> 01:22:00,640
in touch it's all good yeah you know it

1776
01:22:05,550 --> 01:22:02,440
anytime I do it was great talking to you

1777
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:05,560
too yeah have your listeners go to ccc

1778
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:07,810
publishing or Brattle centcom if they

1779
01:22:14,340 --> 01:22:10,690
want to learn more about me or you know

1780
01:22:16,770 --> 01:22:14,350
join the discussion on facebook and i

1781
01:22:18,990 --> 01:22:16,780
have a youtube channel on the esoteric

1782
01:22:21,590 --> 01:22:19,000
series as well all right well you guys

1783
01:22:24,270 --> 01:22:21,600
check out my a GoFundMe page

1784
01:22:26,700 --> 01:22:24,280
gofundme.com backslash the other F word

1785
01:22:28,440 --> 01:22:26,710
and you've been listening to me Heidi